a common everyday approach after Erickson

- easy hypnosis contents
- easy hypnosis contents
- an introduction
- 1] laying some easy foundations for easy hypnosis
- welcome to module 1
- what is hypnosis?
- a generic invitation into hypnosis
- a generic invitation into hypnosis - an example
- fail-safe invitation into hypnosis - an example
- using likes as an invitation into hypnosis
- using likes as an invitation into hypnosis - an example
- conversational hypnosis
- conversational hypnosis - a demonstration
- using a previous experience as an invitation into hypnosis
- using a previous experience as an invitation into hypnosis - a demonstration
- catalepsy - what is it and how can we use it?
- arm levitation
- hypnosis as a mood - an invitation through expectancy
- introducing hypnosis to a client
- setting the mood - incorporating external sounds
- setting the mood - incorporating client concerns
- setting the mood - incorporating therapist concerns
- 2] creating easy elements
- 3] creating an easy session format
- 4] easy stories
conversational hypnosis - a demonstration
This 11 year old boy was brought by his mother because of his violent outbursts at school where he was kicking rubbish bins and threatened a teacher with a knife.
I picked up [eventually] on the mother's comment that people were "pushing his buttons" and this led to a conversation about his "bionical" - a toy I'd never heard of, but soon became familiar with as the boy taught me.
I'm not sure which of us was more focused and absorbed, but there was no formal trance process and yet all the criteria were there for us to observe.
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Cold. The recording began as we met for the first time. I've found that preparation and research just confused and overwhelmed me so I gave them up in favour of listening, observing, and responding. I'm not recommending this, but that's what I do - in response to your question. It's a matter of personal preference and exploring what's useful for the client.

Rob, I enjoyed watching how you paced with him by imitating his behavior, i.e. sitting on your hands, moving your feet like his. Also enjoyed watching how as you interviewed him you picked up cues to use that later led in to story telling and imagining and turning the main character into an image of him, then taking him outside himself to be the controller of himself and the manipulator of his own buttons. Wow, then you used a similar technique with the mother and how the son pushes her buttons and how she can control her own buttons and respond differently to her son when he is trying to push her buttons. I would dare say that you put both the son and mother in a trance. I bet she got more out of the button pushing metaphor than the son. When my kids were very young, I use to tell them stories such as you did, making up characters and using daily events that mirrored my kids and their daily events. We would then turn the story into how they succeeded in the story. they still remember their character and stories and they are now in their mid 20s. I did not know that I was doing conversational hypnosis with them. Although I have a difficult time understanding your Aussie dialect (I'm a New Mexican from the USA) I really enjoy how you engage in a very familiar and comfortable manner. You make learning hypnosis easy.Dario from NM,USA
Just lovely to watch this unfold. So many techniques blending seamlessly to create a very smooth empowering session for this family.
Deliciously delightful play.
This was a brilliant session. It exemplified so much that you have been teaching us - I loved your body language, and watching the boy's body settle and calm throughout the session. He entered into the world you suggested and you were like 2 boys playing together - and it was actually very moving. You taught him to control his behaviour with the push of a button! Lovely!!

It was fascinating to watch a conversational hypnosis session in progress. Seeing all the elements come together and observing your mirroring of the client’s behaviour and your patient perseverance in finding topics that you could meld into a narrative that connected with his experience was invaluable.

Dear Rob, this is a key session for anyone puzzled about "what is hypnosis" and eager to improve or extend its use into one's practice, "conversational" is realy conversational! I feel that in fact, the mother was probably far more in trance than her agitated kid who looked highly relieved to find an elder partner able to enter with pleasure into his imaginative dreams and to give him virtual powers on his own actions. It is very important to know that the positive results lasted as if this unique session had been acting as a switch launching this 11yo instable boy into an era of a more self-controled behavior. Remarquable example that one session therapy might be crucial! Many thanks
Really enjoyed the unacking of the issue in ways this young client could understand. It was interesting also to observe the body language matching. The conversation 'joining' and the offering of "choices' for a preferred future was very helpful. Most interesting being able to particiapte in this learning as an observer.Thank you so much for sharing this video Rob.
Thank you for sharing this. Really interesting to observe how you moved from a place of not knowing to knowing. I was interested to see how you initially tried to use a Harry Potter narrative as a way of initiating change, but were then able to 'park' that when it became clear he wasn't really entering into the scenario, and use the Bionical imagery instead (but then adding in some Harry Potter magic as well!)

Thanks Juliette. I'd say I began by havng to move from knowing [Harry Potter] to not knowing ... this isn't working ... and then the bionical appeared. I was being clever and he reminded me that he had the answer, not me. It was a good learning in humilty for me. A reminder to ask rather than be the expert.
I am thinking the process is different for children than adults. Was Chris too young to have him immerse himself in the experience of imagination, as there had to be some redirecting from you to get him to focus on what he likes and then pretend to imagine that. I am not sure I fully 'got' where the hypnosis was in this demo? Seemed more like a great counselling session to me. I am hoping there is an adult demo for me to watch in the coming modules. In any case, it was lovely to watch you gain his confidence and get a result that I trust he will use.

For me, Vanessa, hypnosis is simply an experience with focus and absorption that we agree as being hypnosis. When Chris and I were "looking" at the bionical, if you looked at both of us, you'd see a lot of physiological changes consistent with what we are calling hypnosis, and there was some pretty active imagination happening. Spme would call if hallucinating. I have notice a lot of hypnotic aspects to counselling and a lot of changes using what we might call "conversational hypnosis".

I had a good example of this with someone who was having reoccurring
nightmares about a church sect they use to be in. I asked him about the
dream and he described three dreams that featured the going to church in a
car, the gates and carpark and people he saw there. We were able to talk
about aspects of the dreams as if they were a comedy instead of a fantasy
about horror. We did conversational hypnosis by thinking about how things
could be different in the dream and how the dream was set of imaginations.
We reconstructed the dream as a creative visualisation or conversational
hypnosis and the client went into trance and saw the car he went to church
as stretch limo full of friends, and the gates of the church painted in
bright blue instead of grey and everyone at church in fancy dress there for
a party instead of being serious and there to rebuke him. These were his
ideas that came to him in trance and he had big smile on his face at the
end of this and was able to describe his nightmare as fun experience.
WOW, just WOW! You are amazing. Very interesting and I learned so much, the way you speak to him, how you mirror his movements in such a subtle manner. He really opens up to you. Wonderful to watch. You can see the way you talk to him makes him open up so much more. He feels safe with you. Wonderful!
I really enjoyed this session, your physical approach and thinking on your seet (pardon the pun and the spelling) with really no apparent effort, except for the obvious goodwill for the boy and his mother.
Softening the mothers preconceptions and combining her into the process and obtaining her cooperation and change in her style of "punishment" was needed for process to work particularly after noting one of her responses. The boy's favourite channels that you were using were very educational to see but where you using any senses that the boy doesn't use much because they are sometimes the most powerful avenues of change? I suppose the proprioceptive movement of the boy gave you a strong bind which was needed as attention spans in children are smaller than adults ( or maybe that's a myth, I don't know). How many other less common channels are there as I suspect there's a lo or than in the et that I have read. Or is this knowledge better mastered in later lessons?
I noticed the shift to the Bionicles to gain more physical traction wit the boy while still using the transition from "Harry Potter" and keeping the gains from that.
The session seemed to me to give the boy more a sense of self -confidence and control over his choices, improving his self esteem. Giving the mother an alternative to managing unwanted behavior sounded in the tone of her voice to be a relief and a more enjoyable way to resolve problems between them without the boy feeling unjustly treated or excessively punished (and possible fostering less cooperation as many children are tied to the concept of life being always fair from their perspective and when its not they either escalate or become resentful) You drew the mother away from imposing long term punishments on him which are highly ineffective because of the difference in thinking process between adults and children (or so I have been lead to believe). the concept of tickling as a punishment causing laughter from them both is good medicine and will bind them both, especially since you suggested to the other the tickling would allow the mother to believe she remains in control of him by I suspect siting on him gently to stop him moving wile she tickles to his tolerance but he may be able to give some tickling back which may make them forget the initiating problem and be more willing to cooperate to talk about things. The physical contact of this method is also good for growing children and the mother as it releases oxytocin and adrenalin and as this is very tactile (apart form other things which are to many to mention and I was not able to follow all the processes involved)
My only question is ok to multitask yourself while helping the client without consciously knowing you are doing it or is it best to focus on tasks one a time to prevent overload on the perceptions of the client? Give your unconscious (or whatever you want to label it will do what it wants and where) multitasking is inevitable as your whole mind learns more of these skills and its not me thinking about it all as in reality it decides what's best and functions at a higher capability than my daily thoughts. Despite the research which says the cerebellum doesn't multitask and flips from one task to the other quickly, I believe your mind will do what it wants in the end one way or another, regardless of your thoughts (of which you are consciously aware) and the clients minds are just as capable to receive however much they want to.
I also enjoyed how you introduced idea of rewards and left the boy with the vague concept (and hence all the more powerful) that he would get the new harry potter book in the end and it would contain things that he would find very useful and in reality it will and he is he only one that can bring those resources forward for himself and the satisfaction of those resources he uses (which are reward in themselves) may sow the seeds of putting off instant gratification for longer term satisfaction which may become a more balanced approach for him which will help him in the long run. Or maybe that's just my personal establishment prejudice shining through.
You did a lot in a limited time for this client, and in relation to this course I find "time" totally perceptual and flexible and non relative at this stage, which is a surprising resource which I have always wanted since I was young but it has come in a form that is true to theory but totally the reverse of the classic interpretation and therefore surprisingly different than what I had ever expected in regard to how it worked but it is useful nevertheless but it does also have its downsides.

Thanks for your thoughtful reflections, Angus, and rather than attempting to answer your questions, I invite you to contionue to be curious as you learn and play in your own practical experience with children.
It is becomning increasingly apparent that the theraopeutic relationship and a mood of expectancy are more important than specific techniques, and so are worth emphasising..
Enjoy your personal learning.
Brilliant conversation Rob. Total twin focus & absorption to create shared solutions - so amazing. Thankyou for sharing this as a gift.
After listening to this, I'm wondering why you decided to emphasize that he would still behave badly sometimes. It's true that none of us are perfect, but realistically that's not going to happen anyway...and at first he was just saying that he wanted to be good. Was there a strategic reason for dialing that back?
Oh my, you look so young Rob! You are an absolute master of this.
Great video! Loved watching the body language and the feet movement change from backward/forward to side to side. Such an empowering session.
Regards
Janine